The best way to figure out how to handle this is to try water-popping and NOT sanding afterward and see if you like what you see/feel. Now I started sanding again to 120 and it takes the stain nicely. Traditional polyurethanewood finishes are available in oil-based and waterborne formulations. Would you recommend adding the Universal Oil to the table in order to further reduce scuffs and watermarks? I obviously want to avoid a blotchy, uneven appearance. I will be interested in hearing how its holding up against water/splashes a year from now. Theyre available on Amazon. I have heard in the past that Rubio goes a long way; I am planning to finish my Ash tressle dining table top 76 x 40 and table base and was wondering how much you think I would need for this project? This is usually tolerable when the epoxy is in a knot because we kind of expect there to me a visual difference there. I cant say if its typical. When we initially prep the wood surface for the finish, we most often will finish our sanding at 180 grit or 220 grit, depending on the substrate and the piece. Free Ground Shipping to the Contiguous U.S. on orders over $49. This means temperatures at least in the 65-70F range, relative humidity (RH) around 50%, and plenty of air movement. Your thoughts? Multiple applications may be needed. This second coat made such a huge difference!! I have just finished shaping and sanding a white oak river table with epoxy down the length of the table top in the center. The guy who made the table sanded it to 320. Hi Marc! Hi Marc, I really appreciate your videos and the information on your site. Rubio does cost more than a traditional polyurethane or lacquer finish ($20-30 at local home centers). Just be careful with the contractor since some of them are unfamiliar with Rubio or hardwax oils in general, and they might be resisting simply because they want to use a product the know will work. I have a couple of questions: Of course, this isnt finished yet. The product does go a long way though, 300-500 sq ft of coverage depending on wood porosity. This is done by sanding it all with the same grit of sandpaper. Epoxy under Rubio looks very different than wood. Thanks. After finish sanding, we will apply a finish of either our Commercial Grade Satin Finish Lacquer or our Rubio Monocoat Natural Oil Finish, which we will choose based on the characteristics of the slab. Finer machine sanding than 150 grit will close the wood grain and reduce the ability for Oil Plus 2C to enter the upper wood cell structure properly. And while Rubio is a great product, its certainly not the only game in town and I have a renewed respect for what the world of hardwax oils can offer. I cant figure out how anyone would use this on a dining table or countertop if it is so easily damaged. Hey Marc, i just read every single comment on this video looking for a solution to add delth to the rubio. I guess I would have hung the top of the vanities off the wall and eliminated the back legs. Rubio also has a tinted versions, which also saves some stain work. But the biggest difference is in the way it feels. I made the mistake of applying one coat of rubio on an American walnut river table dining table. Just use a light touch. (re-posting, put it in a reply accidentally). You might just try applying more finish without sanding. Unlike other wood finish, it is free of strong odors and made from renewable plant-based oils. Planed surfaces should be just fine. This will help with a smoother, more even finish. Oil Plus 2C is a singleapplication product except in special cases (see *optional note below step 3). Hi Mark! The combination of the oil (A) and the accelerator (B) guarantees a quick drying (100ml is Part A only). Im considering using Rubio on maple kitchen countertops were building. Should I ever be compensated to write, I will make full disclosure. But if thats not the look youre after, I might suggest going with a different product. Oil Preparation Calculate how much you will need. I hope you can get it off by buffing. The products do have coverage numbers included if you want to do a little math. Just wipe the excess when applying and the gaps will do what they do. Some Exclusions Apply. The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely our own. Addicted 2 Decorating is where I share my DIY and decorating journey as I remodel and decorate the 1948 fixer upper that my husband, Matt, and I bought in 2013. Ive only had experience with walnut, and I know that the two sanding, two coat process will be my process from now on when I use this on any walnut project. The table has some very small holes from insects would be my guess. Still isnt what Id call terribly even. Id rather not have to place another order for the colored product. They recommend making sure the product itself is nice and warm even if applying it to a cold workpiece in a cold garage as that will help the application process. So when I got the vanity on the right side in place and attached so that it was level-ish, the front left leg was completely off the floor. flattening on both sides, and total preparation of the slab for finishing through machine and hand sanding to a 220 grit. It was very thorough and I learned a lot. One question- if you going color/stain the wood, what product would you use and does that change the finish process at all ? If you prefer colors that are more in the primary color and whimsical color range and heavier pigmented with a semi-solid appearance,Rubio Monocoatalso has an additional product choice, Hybrid Wood Protector (HWP). Use Rubio Raw Wood Cleaner (optional). Thats the joy of this kind of finish, you actually can spot treat areas without having major issues. Would you use this finish on a dining table? I asked my contact at Rubio and they said that 68-72F is ideal. We have a family of 5 and it has held up great to daily cooking and abuse. Sand the surface according to industry guidelines. When I did the finishing originally, I did it according to the instructions that I had found on several videos, which all said to sand the wood to a 120-grit finish and then add the Rubio Monocoat finish. Is it easy enough to remove the current finish by sanding with 80 and then 120 and then just start over with the Pure? Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. But I will te try the Danish oil on a scrap piece first. I sanded it all off. Hey Marc, thanks for the advice here. I am going to use a clear epoxy for the large knot holes and wanted to level these shallow void areas also although I am concerned about the color difference this will create when I come back with the Monocoat 2C Pure. So your best bet is to continue using the blotch control formula and trying different traditional stains/dyes in hopes of finding a combination that doesnt blotch so much. You may want to refinish it with something in a similar color range, clear, or perhaps in a completely different color that fitstheirdcor. My though is to pre-able the 2C in the void areas then use the clear epoxy. I dont see why not. The Wood Whisperer, The Wood Whisperer Guild, TWW, and TWW Guild are trademarks of The Wood Whisperer Inc. All rights reserved. An innovative wax-based cream with excellent water-repellancy. Itisa very easy-to-use product, even if you have limited skills in refinishing wood furniture. The use of a good quality electrical sander and dust extraction will be a handy and welcome tool in this process. 1) in spots, it is a little rough. Would you recommend lightly sanding the whole table with 220, then applying 2 coats of rubio? I can can see lines from spreading product and some splotchy marks in some areas. Faucet tend to splash with low profile sink so I wipe with a towel after use. But if its something youre really concerned about its probably best to fill with epoxy. I just used Rubio Pure 2C for the first time and was disappointed. Allow the previously oiled wood to dry at least 24-36 hours (granted the drying conditions are favorable). Seems like I cannot find anything similar at my local home depot/lowes. Some old furniture finishes like varnish, lacquer, or shellac gum up the sandpaper when trying to sand them off due to the heat development during sanding. Have you tried mixing Rubio colors to get a Greene and Greene look? I want to durability of Rubio and dont want a layer of plasticy stuff on it, but want more figure and depth to the wood. I use a small buffer with a terry cloth bonnet installed when possible. Details > Upcoming Event: Festool Build Day.Learn More > If the depth of a gouge or discoloration or marks is significant, it is probably best to start evenly sanding the affected areas back at around 180 grit with a random orbital sander. We have a reclaimed white oak table we are looking to finish using the Rubio 2c product. The accelerator is not absolutely necessary, but it speeds up the drying and curing time from 3 weeks to 7 days. Thanks for the video. But it WILL get there! Some will accept finish and some wont. I'm a DIY fanatic remodeling my way through our 1948 fixer upper. Rough scratches that get put in the wood need to be sanded out again. Replace the sandpaper once it starts to wear down, do not bear down on the sander but let the tool do the work. The tools and techniques you use to accomplish these steps can vary. All Rights Reserved. The way Rubio works, the wood takes what it wants and anything else left on the surface is just a liability as it tends to get sticky and gummy. I will prep the table after 24 hours with a light, even maroon pad scuff. Thanks! We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. I can only say I havent seen that myself. I was simply hoping to make the table smoother to the touch, but not necessarily have a sheen. Thanks. probably a good question for the company. Hey Marc, Im building a bathroom vanity with birch top and vessel sink. Hi Marc! You can learn more about me here. Rubio is fine for a workbench but its awfully expensive given the purpose. Such a difference and improvement! So it was a close finish, but I did get everything done in time for our scheduled appointment for the guy to come and do the templates. Is this typical? Appreciate any advice. You are able to present information in a logical and factual way, which does not come across as critical. The thought occurs to me that the company that makes the product may have no idea that a second coat would be better. Would you trust Rubio for this vanity or something like Waterlox or Arm-r-seal? How about a light wet sand with, say, 2000 grit after full cure? Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. My husband and I have applied Rubio Pure to our maple hardwood floors using the buffer method seen in countless videos. Ill let you know if I find a good formula. Used Rubio on a walnut bathroom vanity countertop with vessel sink. Will 100% be using this everywhere I can". I am looking to do this on a walnut slab countertop. Timbermate works just fine with Rubio. I have Rubio on my kitchen table and it has yet to show any marks from hot coffee cups. Thanks! Allow the oiled wood surface to dry under favorable drying conditions. When you see a shiny sanded wood surface, it is sanded too smooth. Thanks so much for your video. Most holes and insect trails have been filled with the same blue epoxy however after flattening the top again and sanding, some new holes are without epoxy. We recommend using the accelerator. Thank you. Also, Id there a waiting period between spreading with the white scotchbright and buffing with the terry cloth? Im about to tackle a live edge walnut console table and ordered the Rubio mono coat as it seams like a good choice for beginners. I want to apply Rubio to our newly installed butcher block counter tops. Regarding sheen, I always hit my projects with the Universal Maintenance Oil to brighten it up a bit. Again, the leg with the original finish (sanded to 120-grit and one coat of Rubio Monocoat) has a slight rough feel to it, and dust doesn't wipe off easily. It has been two weeks since I added the UMO. And even colored Rubio will blotch in woods that are prone to it. Hmm.Rubio doesnt do so well when left in a thick layer so it may never truly cure. Also, the touch up spots, while fairly good color, seem to have a bit lighter tone than the original coat. Please note that this is not a sponsored video but I have received a couple of cans of finish from Rubio in the past. While ammonia will also leave a dark stain on floors finished with Rubio Monocoat, after the ammonia is cleaned and gentle abrasion is applied, the stain will lighten. Given this, please assume that any links leading you to products or services are affiliate links that we will receive compensation from. . I hope you and Matt are still enjoying some outings! The application of HWP is similar to thoseoutlinedabove. Recommended to only sand to 150 grit. Recall the amount of oil required for your project. When it dried, the slab was so splotchy. This time I sanded 100120 150 180 and water popped b/w grits. and is unable to do physical work, so I do the majority of the work on the house by myself. I order a sample in Bourbon so will try that soon. Vacuum the surface. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. 1 Liter finishes approx 300-500 square feet. Onhighly porousspecies an additional application may be needed if the wood can not be fully saturated during the first application. Excellent for cleaning floors and required when applying Pre-Aging, Want to see what a color looks like on a real project? Perhaps you applied too much initially so that when you buffed, the buffing pad got saturated. Monocoat enhances the natural beauty of the wood without drastically altering the tone. The leg with the second sanding to 220-grit and a second coat of Rubio Monocoat is so unbelievably smooth. Oiling and finishing wood furniture is to be done in sections that are manageable and can be completed within about 15 minutes. Thanks in advance. As mentioned, I am about to embark on applying rubio monocoat for the first time ever, on a walnut dining table I built. (As I typed that, I wondered if a No. Thanks for your reply! Rubio Monocoat oil has unrivalled characteristics. Dont do anything you cant finish within 15 minutes. The tools and techniques you use to accomplish these steps can vary. Apparently, OSMO, a product similar to Rubio (as you mentioned) offers a matte, satin and gloss sheen. The natural oils could cause some drying issues with the danish oil. I dont now if you can even tell in the picture (hopefully its not too noticeable), but I will have to add a spacer under this leg before the countertop is installed. I cant tell you if the finish will meet your expectations but I can say its the ideal finish for my table, based on my usage and repairability. I had a little bit of frustration trying to get these vanities in place because, working in an old house, nothing is ever level, square, or plumb. Do not skip more than one grit between grit changes to facilitate more effective sanding scratch removal. I couldnt find much on working with it, just that woodworkers say its better to turn it wet and boil it to reduce splitting, which is a lot of work for a slab! Or is previously oiled piece of wood a lost case for re-coating with Rubio? Maybe their outdoor products, but not the interior stuff. It feels like such a professional finish now. A 350ml can will finish approx 140 sq ft. Stir the contents of the Part A can thoroughly to fully mix the oil and disperse any settled pigment. While we had to try a couple of different colors to determine the one we wanted, the product itself is very easy to handle and apply. Thanks, very helpful video and discussion. The cheaper one. I havent used their pre-aging product before so I cant really advise. And the white oak has been harvested on a farm 3 years ago with multiple sized insect infestation holes. Ill do a second coat tomorrow and hopefully it will look a little more to my taste. Rubio Monocoat USA Oil Plus 2C A 0% VOC hardwax oil wood finish based on a unique technology that is easy to apply, easy to maintain, and keeps the natural look and feel of the wood. I dont think you should have to do much sanding unless the wood itself is truly damaged. I think they would appreciate your feedback and who knows? So unless you have some Rubio laying around that is going to go bad and you need to use it up, Id recommend the Danish Oil. Once coated, buff the finish in using a white pad on a sander or manually with a white scotch bright pad. I don't think you'll have to be too thorough. Thanks Marc, I have used Boiled Linseed Oil many times on the African Rosewood, never had an issue. 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